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Some unsolicited advice to up & coming Youtube channels

4/10/2014

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I’ve been subbing to a bunch of new channels in the last few months, to keep in touch with what’s new and to see what’s up and coming. However, I’m afraid that I’m unsubbing gradually from one channel after the other, and this is a post dealing with why. I’m hoping it will be taken as constructive criticism. There are fantastic channels going these days, but some are shooting themselves in the foot if they want to get an audience worthy of their ideas and presentations.

I’ll say at the outset that I’m not describing “rules” or scientific facts arrived at through extensive research. I’m going to outline two problem areas, as I subjectively perceive them, and I’m aware that it’s possible for channels to succeed and make great videos whilst still running counter to what I describe here. This is pretty subjective, mmmmkay? It describes the reasons why I turn off from otherwise good channels, and I’m guessing, purely guessing, that I’m not the only one.

Keep it short.
Really: who, these days, has time to watch a 25 minute video? Seriously, you could spell out the cure for cancer, but nobody is going to watch it if it’s in a video that warns you, before you click it, that it goes for that long. 

Attention spans are short and getting shorter, and you’re jumping into the most incredibly competitive space in human history, as far as attracting and keeping a person’s attention: the internet. The Youtubes. Millions of people uploading billions of hours of content. Don’t call people over to your little stall, and tell them that you need them to give you 25 minutes of their free time on a Tuesday night. They’re going to have gone elsewhere for something less demanding before you know they were even thinking of doing so. Don’t even ask them for 15 minutes. 10 minutes and you’re still pushing the friendship waaaaaaay too far.

Nobody watches long videos from new, relatively unknown channels. Don’t even think you’ll grow a subscriber base if you’re putting out anything longer than 4 or 5 minutes with any regularity.

My channel exploded when I made “Atheist!!!!!”, and not until then.  I got the idea for “Atheist!!!” in the shower, had it up on Youtube within two hours, and it went for less than 90 seconds - and everything blew up. It got shared everywhere. I had unheard of numbers of views, which converted into views on all the other content I’d made that had been sitting there doing bugger all. I learned a big lesson. 

Nowadays I can get away with making longer videos, but believe me, I’m still searching for the video ideas that can fit under two minutes. I’m repeatedly surprised that I get as many views on the long ones as I do- and I sometimes wonder how much bigger my channel and view count would be if I could get some shorter ideas! 

If you want more views, and if you think your videos and ideas are worthy of more views, you’ve got to think like this: 99c is WAY cheaper than $1. Every marketer knows that. A video that goes for 3:50 is WAAAY shorter than one that goes for 4:05. And you’re putting up videos that consistently go for 17 minutes? Forget it, no matter how good they are, you’re not even going to get clicks. Nobody is going to know about how good your ideas are. 

As I said from the outset - yes there are video makers that get big views with long videos, I know. And some videos deserve to be long, and some just don’t lend themselves to being cut in half. Take my point here as a general guideline, not a law or a rule. Or don’t take it at all, that’s fine too.


Slow down. Too many videos too frequently. 
If you’re putting out videos more frequently than one a week, I think you’re absolutely overloading your audience. I see some channels who are uploading three or four times a week (and I’m not talking about V-logging. That’s a different thing altogether, I know.) I’m talking about content-based, written, scripted, well prepared videos. Even if I like their stuff - I might just not want to see the next instalment in the series the very next day, so I miss one. Then I miss another one, because I don’t want to go back to the one I missed and then watch the next one in one sitting, before the next next one comes out tomorrow or the next day. I give up, because keeping up to speed becomes like a chore.

It’s too “in-your-face” to be dishing up content to your subscribers too often. You want your videos to be a nice, welcome arrival on your subs’ Youtube pages. A nice surprise. “Oh, there’s that guy again, let’s see what he’s come up with now.” Not “Oh, shit, I didn’t watch the one he did yesterday yet,…”

If you’re still getting established and popular, people are not going to give you their attention every day. Don’t expect it of them, and don’t even request that they do by dishing up new content. I’ve unsubbed in such circumstances because it just gets too much. “Oh, another one from him.” “Oh, it’s up to ‘Part 6’ already, and I think I’ve only watched parts 1 and 2. Shit, I don’t have 40 minutes to get back up to speed right now,…”

And - you’ll burn out if you make too many!!! Go ahead and make all the videos in your series if you’ve got the time this week. But then sit on them, and slowly release them over the course of three months, not a fortnight! Let the audience grow at a realistic pace. Let the videos get shared, picked up on blogs, commented on, featured by Youtube,… slow down. 

You’re not going to be an overnight sensation, so grow things gradually by putting out consistently good content at a reasonable pace that isn’t intrusive on your viewers’ time, but rather something they look forward to, and wait for.


SO - there’s my four cents’ worth. 2c each.
There are many many more things to say, but these seem the most pressing for now, because as I say, I’m seeing good content go to waste, and I’m on the lookout for good new stuff.
Tell me what you think.

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10 Comments
StNimbus
4/10/2014 06:55:07 am

"If brevity is the soul of wit... I will be brief"

Good points.
:)

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Neil
4/10/2014 12:02:43 pm

I have a couple of half baked ideas I have been sitting on for a while, trying to establish a decent but somewhat distinct style. The advice is appreciated and the lengthy idea is now going on the back burner.

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LasergunExtreme link
4/10/2014 06:56:42 pm

Well, you're the exception to these rules, Nonstampcollector. I agree that it's much easier to share videos like "ATHEIST!!!", but the videos I keep coming back to are long ones like "Christianity debate" and "Quiz Show (Bible Contradictions)". I guess I'm just very patient...?

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Ed Wittenable
4/12/2014 11:10:04 am

I've gotten tired of hearing the people running the channels that I watch whining for donations. Lately a lot of them include a statement like "I'd like to do this YouTube channel full time but it takes a lot more money than I'm getting. Please donate to my channel via PayPal." I'm sick of hearing it. If they don't want to do it in their spare time then they can stop altogether as far as I'm concerned.

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Valosken
4/13/2014 12:18:41 am

Very close to my own sentiments. The only difference, really, is that I'm fine with putting up with 10 minute videos, and 15 minutes at a push. This is why I can't subscribe to TheThinkingAtheist. They're like an hour or more. Once I like a channel, though, as you said, I can watched up to half an hour stuff.

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Colin
4/14/2014 08:15:02 am

Hey, how is a person supposed to contact you? I didn't see any general email links on your site.

Anyway, on the scripts page, you said "scripts are going up slowly, request scripts if you want to change the order I post them in".

I just wanted to put in a formal request for the script to the "time traveller at the sermon on the mount" video. Great stuff, man. keep up the good work!

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NSC
4/15/2014 11:31:24 am

Colin - at the very very top there's an email icon. Clicking on that will open an email window - on my computer at least. Not sure about mobile platforms though I guess so: contact at nonstampcollector dotcom will do it.

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Uday
5/5/2014 08:23:49 pm

Thanks, NSC. You continue to impress with your work, and now with this excellent advice. Cheers!

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C
5/21/2014 08:20:27 am

Here's my twopence in return, so that it might help with explaining that "I’m repeatedly surprised that I get as many views on the long ones as I do" of yours: some of the views i make are simply because i find the title (or the preview still-shot) interesting, even though i know beforehand that the video is too lengthy. Then i watch it for a few minutes, maybe 10 or 12 or 15 if i really like the subject, before i close it down. This probably still adds up to the counter, don't you think?

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Jessica
9/25/2014 07:13:53 am

I skimmed this in trying to recap what you've been able to do in the last year, and saw the section regarding "don't spam their inboxes, let it be an occasional treat". I get that, but then there's the feeling of "is he ever going to come back?" or the more entitled "Where the f did he go?!"
I can respect and understand not being able to do projects because of inspiration or lack thereof, but there is that factor as well, when you just appear to disappear through lack of involvement.

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