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CONTEXT!!!!! |
I was reading the bible last night.
Hmmm! That’s great.
I read some interesting passages.
Grr, let me guess, you’re going to read something that sounds unkind or violent...
John 13:34 : Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Hmmm!
Joshua 1:9 Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.
Hmmm!
Psalm 23:4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me;
Hmm!!!
Matt 7:7 Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Hmmmm!
Prov 30:5 Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.
Hmmm!
1 John 4:7 let us love one another, for love comes from God.
Hmmm!
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
OUTRAGE - That’s completely out of context etc
Lev 24:16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him.
OUTRAGE
I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, <<<< so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)
Hold on, I know what you’re trying to do, but that’s not actually God speaking there. The bible was written by fallible human beings <<<<<who..
No no, no, it’s Yahweh. From Verse 13 of that chapter Yahweh is speaking in the first person
OUTRAGE. well, you must have taken it out of context cut v. short by:
1 John 4:8 (New International Version) God is love.
Hmmmm!
You’re not concerned about knowing the context of that<<<<<<
No that’s fine.
Nahum 1:7 The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him
Hmmmm!
Joshua 10:39-40 And Joshua took all the cities thereof; and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining
OUTRAGE You don’t know the correct context of that, >>>cut off by:
Oh, the context? Well, Joshua had been Moses’ apprentice, and in fact commanded the first battle after the exodus, against the Amalekites in Rephadim. Having successfully spied upon Canaan, he was rewarded by god for his faith, and was given divine assistance in slaughtering city after city in a lengthy invasion of the region known as the promised land, securing it by force for Israel, <<<<<<
No, no, look, hold on hold on- that’s not the correct context, - the context was God’s overall plan for humanity! He had to protect the lineage of Jesus!
What, omnipotent god couldn’t come up with any other way to do it than with iron age barbarity and piles of dead children?
The correct context is one in which killing children was OK, OK?!! THAT’s the correct context! You’re not a theologian!!! You can’t understand this kind of thing! OUTRAGE
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Phillipians 4:13
Hmmmm!
"Now, O Lord GOD, You are God, and Your words are truth, 2 Samuel 7:28
Hmmmm.
O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived Jeremiah 20:7
Hmm?! What? Ummm- just go back one again---?
"Now, O Lord GOD, You are God, and Your words are truth, 2 Samuel 7:28
and the next one?
O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived Jeremiah 20:7
Umm. ok - that first one, that’s OK, but the second one about god deceiving someone that’s obviously OUTRAGE
Deuteronomy 28:53 Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you
OUTRAGE
Yes, it certainly is taken out of context. But in what context is it OK for an infinitely powerful being to threaten puny petrified humans that they’ll be forced to eat their own children?
Well there must be a context in which making such a threat is the epitome of kindness, generosity and love, or else Yahweh wouldn’t have done it would he?! And whatever that context is, you DEFINITELY took that verse OUT OF IT!
Hmmm! Well, how do we know whether a passage from the bible has been taken out of context or not?
Well, if it sounds horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless, immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust,, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting it’s been taken out of context - otherwise - it’s ok.
Well look - I disagree. I think that if a scriptural verse sounds horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless, immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust,, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting,
then it probably IS horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless, immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust,, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting.
What! That makes NO SENSE AT ALL! This is SCRIPTURE we’re talking about!
Hmmm! Well how about this verse:
Whereby that which is in their bellies and their skins too will be melted, and for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever in their anguish they would go forth fro thence they are driven back therein and it is said unto them: Taste the doom of burning
OUTRAGE
No no, sorry, that one was from the QARAN. (22: ~23)
EVIL BOOK!! etc
Yeah, I know, right? How about this one, too
41 when I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries and repay those who hate me.42 I will make my arrows drunk with blood, while my sword devours flesh: the blood of the slain and the captives, the heads of the enemy leaders.
EVIL BOOK!
No no, that’s Yahweh speaking in the bible. Deut 32:41-42
OUTRAGE
What about the bit in the bible where Yahweh sends fire from heaven to burn 102 men to death? 2 Kings 1:10-12
Right, and the command to kill non-believing family members?
Or the bit where god helps David kill a Philistine whose head he then cuts off and walks around with? 1 Sam 17:57
The bit where god’s holy angel kills 185,000 people in one night? Isaiah 37:36
Children being killed by bears sent by Yahweh?
God giving out rewards for stabbing a foreign woman through the guts with a javelin? Numbers 25:6-9
Hmmm! That’s great.
I read some interesting passages.
Grr, let me guess, you’re going to read something that sounds unkind or violent...
John 13:34 : Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Hmmm!
Joshua 1:9 Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.
Hmmm!
Psalm 23:4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me;
Hmm!!!
Matt 7:7 Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Hmmmm!
Prov 30:5 Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.
Hmmm!
1 John 4:7 let us love one another, for love comes from God.
Hmmm!
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
OUTRAGE - That’s completely out of context etc
Lev 24:16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him.
OUTRAGE
I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, <<<< so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)
Hold on, I know what you’re trying to do, but that’s not actually God speaking there. The bible was written by fallible human beings <<<<<who..
No no, no, it’s Yahweh. From Verse 13 of that chapter Yahweh is speaking in the first person
OUTRAGE. well, you must have taken it out of context cut v. short by:
1 John 4:8 (New International Version) God is love.
Hmmmm!
You’re not concerned about knowing the context of that<<<<<<
No that’s fine.
Nahum 1:7 The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him
Hmmmm!
Joshua 10:39-40 And Joshua took all the cities thereof; and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining
OUTRAGE You don’t know the correct context of that, >>>cut off by:
Oh, the context? Well, Joshua had been Moses’ apprentice, and in fact commanded the first battle after the exodus, against the Amalekites in Rephadim. Having successfully spied upon Canaan, he was rewarded by god for his faith, and was given divine assistance in slaughtering city after city in a lengthy invasion of the region known as the promised land, securing it by force for Israel, <<<<<<
No, no, look, hold on hold on- that’s not the correct context, - the context was God’s overall plan for humanity! He had to protect the lineage of Jesus!
What, omnipotent god couldn’t come up with any other way to do it than with iron age barbarity and piles of dead children?
The correct context is one in which killing children was OK, OK?!! THAT’s the correct context! You’re not a theologian!!! You can’t understand this kind of thing! OUTRAGE
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Phillipians 4:13
Hmmmm!
"Now, O Lord GOD, You are God, and Your words are truth, 2 Samuel 7:28
Hmmmm.
O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived Jeremiah 20:7
Hmm?! What? Ummm- just go back one again---?
"Now, O Lord GOD, You are God, and Your words are truth, 2 Samuel 7:28
and the next one?
O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived Jeremiah 20:7
Umm. ok - that first one, that’s OK, but the second one about god deceiving someone that’s obviously OUTRAGE
Deuteronomy 28:53 Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you
OUTRAGE
Yes, it certainly is taken out of context. But in what context is it OK for an infinitely powerful being to threaten puny petrified humans that they’ll be forced to eat their own children?
Well there must be a context in which making such a threat is the epitome of kindness, generosity and love, or else Yahweh wouldn’t have done it would he?! And whatever that context is, you DEFINITELY took that verse OUT OF IT!
Hmmm! Well, how do we know whether a passage from the bible has been taken out of context or not?
Well, if it sounds horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless, immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust,, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting it’s been taken out of context - otherwise - it’s ok.
Well look - I disagree. I think that if a scriptural verse sounds horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless, immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust,, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting,
then it probably IS horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless, immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust,, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting.
What! That makes NO SENSE AT ALL! This is SCRIPTURE we’re talking about!
Hmmm! Well how about this verse:
Whereby that which is in their bellies and their skins too will be melted, and for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever in their anguish they would go forth fro thence they are driven back therein and it is said unto them: Taste the doom of burning
OUTRAGE
No no, sorry, that one was from the QARAN. (22: ~23)
EVIL BOOK!! etc
Yeah, I know, right? How about this one, too
41 when I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries and repay those who hate me.42 I will make my arrows drunk with blood, while my sword devours flesh: the blood of the slain and the captives, the heads of the enemy leaders.
EVIL BOOK!
No no, that’s Yahweh speaking in the bible. Deut 32:41-42
OUTRAGE
What about the bit in the bible where Yahweh sends fire from heaven to burn 102 men to death? 2 Kings 1:10-12
Right, and the command to kill non-believing family members?
Or the bit where god helps David kill a Philistine whose head he then cuts off and walks around with? 1 Sam 17:57
The bit where god’s holy angel kills 185,000 people in one night? Isaiah 37:36
Children being killed by bears sent by Yahweh?
God giving out rewards for stabbing a foreign woman through the guts with a javelin? Numbers 25:6-9